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Sparky, Meet Cloudy

Follwing up his brokering of the Diesel Sweeties syndication deal, United Feature Syndicate comcis talent scout/right-wing critical darling Ted Rall has brought Steven Cloud’s Boy on a Stick and Slither. UFS’s web arm, comics.com, lists BOASAS as starting on April 25th; Cloud informs us it will be a web-only syndication deal, similar to that accepted by Chris Baldwin‘s Little Dee last year (perhaps significantly, Cloud will start one week before Baldwin’s contract with UFS ends, which he says will result in either syndication or leaving comics.com).

Key features of the deal:

  • It’s for a year, after which UFS can either call BOASAS up to the big leagues (print syndication), or the parties can walk away
  • The BOASAS site will run strips after a several-days delay
  • Cloud gets to keep control of his archives and merchandise

That last point is probably the most important, and the big one that the syndicates seem to have finally recognized is critical — when readers can go through extensive archives, you can build and keep their loyalties more easily. And when creators can control their financial affairs, more of them will be willing to do business with you.

Notes From The Periphery

With the Kelly/Goldman brouhaha into its long waiting stages (and goodness — less than a week since it started … we were just getting full into British Tabloid Mode around here), it’s time to mention a few other things:

Peripherally Related To Kelly/Goldman Item One: As reported here, there were questions raised regarding some designs from t-shirt vendor Dirty Microbe. Christian von Kleist wrote from Dirty Microbe wrote to us:

Hi! This is Christian from Dirty Microbe, and I came up with the pixelated skull design and approved the Cutty one. I saw your post when I was doing a Google search for “dirty microbe” (to check our AdWords ads). I’d be totally happy to address the questions you have in your post! We definitely haven’t stolen any ideas knowingly, and I have a good relationship with two of the comic artists in your post and its comments. So… Shoot me back a line and I’d love to chat about stuff!

Props to von Kleist for being willing to answer questions instead of attacking, and we at Fleen are going to take him up on his offer. If you have questions or concerns about the designs or process at Dirty Microbe, send them to me (come on people, you know the address by now) and I’ll forward them on.

Peripherally Related To Kelly/Goldman Item Two: There were a lot of mentions in various place in the past week (including comment threads here at Fleen) that Kelly should try to involve the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund in his quest for righteousness; one person even suggested getting the Fund to back a class-action suit against Goldman. I’ve been a volunteer with the CBLDF and know a number of the decision makers there, and while what I’m about to say is my own conjecture only and doesn’t represent anything official on the part of the Fund, there are a few things people ought to know about the Fund and how it chooses cases. Key words to remember:

  1. Comic Book. The Fund has not yet chosen to accept a case outside of the print realm; partly this is practical (the law of the internet is unsettled and international in scope), and partly because there’s not consensus that webcomics are within their remit.
  2. Legal Defense. The Fund has come to the defense of creators, but Kelly would have to have been the plaintiff in any case he might have brought.
  3. Fund. It’s limited, and frequently taxed by current efforts. Some cases can be addressed relatively simply and in conjunction with other groups, and some requires years of effort and massive amounts of capital. There could be a lot of cases that merit Fund attention that crop up tomorrow, but the ongoing Gordon Lee defense (which to date has cost more than $70,000) is taking up so much time and money that they might not be able to accept. On a related note, because the Fund doesn’t want to have to fight the same case over and over, they tend to pick cases where a binding precedent can be set; that’s not usually the applicable in civil law.

Maybe there needs to be a WCLDF, maybe not. Maybe there needs to be a consensus from webcomics creators that support (monetary and otherwise) be given to the CBLDF in a big way, leading to an incorporation of our unique interests into the Fund’s sphere of influence. But as things stand today, webcomics are mostly on their own.

Peripherally Related To The Last Webcomics Shitfight: The countdown to Wondermark‘s deletion from Wikipedia starts … Now!

Not Peripherally Related To Anything But Awesome On Its Own: You could call this the Tao of Webcomics, courtesy of Rich Stevens.

Hey, Professor! I Got A Question!

Last week I attended the joint meeting of the Popular Culture Association and the American Culture Association, and I heard papers on topics as wide-ranging as Morrissey, fandom, and identity through to Appalachian banjo stylings, and that’s a fairly narrow sampling of the various papers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer is perpetually popular, though the hot show this year seems to have been Gray’s Anatomy). The conference spans four days and has a conference program that’s about 400 pages long.

I’ve presented with the PCA before, both nationally and regionally, since for many years while I was in graduate school the Modern Language Association—the major pinnacle of conferences in my field — very much frowned on papers having to do with comics unless they had something to do with a children’s literature panel. But in the 12 years between when I began graduate school and now, there’s been a definite jump in the number of academics who teach comics, the amount of scholarship on comics (just check out ICAF, for starters), and the response to that scholarship both inside of and external to the academy. Even in the five years since I’ve finished it does seem like the proverbial tide has actually turned a bit.

For example, at this recent conference, there were lots of papers on comics. There’s a Comic Art & Comics interest group that ran programming for the duration of the conference. There were a series of panels about comics in other discussion groups, such as both the Medieval and the Composition & Rhetoric groups. There was even an entire panel organized around Sandman, dealing with Neil Gaiman’s use of myth in the series.

What particularly caught my eye, though, were the papers on webcomics. From just skimming the program (remember: 400 pages) I found two: one titled “Penny Arcade and the Manipulation of Subcultural Capitalâ€? presented by a scholar from the University of Calgary, and another, “The King of Lizards Comes out of the Closet: Masculinity, Sexuality, and Heteronormativity in Dinosaur Comics â€? by a scholar from West Chester University. And those are just the ones which name-check webcomics in their titles. There must have been others which mentioned webcomics in the body of the papers; for example, I heard a paper about “hipster librariansâ€? mention Unshelved, which makes sense given the subject matter. I know from posts on a comics scholars discussion list I’m on that there are folks worldwide writing dissertations about webcomics, which means the number of undergrad papers on them must be exponentially higher.

All of it made me return, again, to the question of context. In writing last week’s column on Minimalist Stick Figure Theater, I thought it would be a fabulous text to use in a women’s studies class. I think it’s a great webcomic, and it raises points worthy of discussion in a way that I think would be ideal for just such a class.

I know that there’s webcomics out there which poke fun at academic culture (which is great; it’s pretty goofy from time to time, and though there isn’t a secret handshake it does certainly have its own weird internal culture). What I’m wondering is if there are folks out there who have used webcomics in an educational setting, and, if so, which ones and how? How does a webcomic change when it is printed out and distributed to a class (sort of thinking about fair use and not fair use and outright theft, since that’s been the focus here for the last few days)? Is it realistic to assign students to look at websites for homework, since it’s becoming ever more rare to find students who are not online? And in ten years are we going to see the PCA flooded with papers about webcomics? I don’t know. But it’ll be interesting to find out.

Thoughts?

In Case You Hadn’t Seen It

Posted by Dave Kelly at Something Awful:

Goldman’s Publicist has posted in this thread.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

POST POP-ARTIST, TODD GOLDMAN, CONTROVERSAL PAINTING

CLEARWATER, FL, April 11, 2007- Popular post pop-artist, Todd Goldman who has made a career of making fun of the world with his sarcastic commentary and cartoon icons, has mistakenly used the design of an another artist in two of his recent paintings. Todd’s painting, “Dear God, Please Make Everyone Die�, was inspired from a drawing he received unbeknownst to him belonging to an underground web comic artist David “Shmorky� Kelly.

In addition to painting, Todd designs t-shirts for his clothing company, David & Goliath. Todd and his design team create and receive thousands of design ideas every month. It’s no secret that Goldman creates a lot of his painting ideas from his t-shirt designs. Goldman says “I made a judgment error and didn’t research the background of this particular submission. “My intention was not to copy Mr. Kelly. I have never seen his work before and would never intentionally knock-off someone else’s idea.�

Goldman has issued a formal apology to Mr. Kelly and has stated that he will not be using his design again in the future. As a gesture of good faith, Goldman has pledged not profit from his mistake. He will instead donate his proceeds from the painting directly to Mr. Kelly or his charity of choice.

That does not mean this is over. We will have to find out how many copies he sold and how much he made from them.

For those of you playing at home, one may summarize Goldman’s response to:

  1. It wasn’t my fault!
  2. I’m gonna be a really great guy and not rip off Kelly in the future
  3. I’m making no promises about my working methods in the future

Good luck to Kelly on getting things resolved quickly; since it’s into the negotiation stage, we’ll save the daily updates until there’s something definitive to report. Two last notes:

  1. Dave, if you’re reading this, get a lawyer to look over the settlement offer; I’m still willing to kick in my pledge of $200 to that end.
  2. I hope it’s possible that Kelly can avoid confidentiality clauses. It should be public record how much Goldman profited from Kelly’s work (which will provide a reference figure what what Kelly’s work is worth — a few commissions from former “Goldman” collectors would be nice), and it should be public record what his working methods are like (which will provide useful information for other artists that wish pursue their due).

Yes! Front Page!

Promoted from the comments thread so that it’s visible. From Dave Kellett, friend of the oppressed:

Man, I am way late to this party…as I’ve been travelling, and just now heard about this.

But let me make an honest-to-God offer: if someone will mail me the Keenspot comic, I’ll gladly take it over to the LA gallery that’s showing Goldman’s work. I’ll even take along a severely pissed off Kris Straub — two web cartoonists for the price of one!

The printed/dated/copyright work will carry more weight in a gallery owner’s mind than if I were to just print out a webpage. Sadly, I don’t have a copy — hence the request.

If anyone has it, and wants to mail it along, send it to:
Dave Kellett
Sheldon Comics
PO Box 881195
Los Angeles, CA 90009

In Non-Theft-Related Webcomics News

Some things threatening to get lost in the shuffle, so let’s take a few minutes to send some love in deserving directions:

  • Today’s Little Dee (only good for 30 days, it’ll be in Baldwin’s archive eventually Now in Baldwin’s archive!): oh hell, yes. Hey, newspaper editors? This is what you want in lieu of BC cut-and-paste jobs.
  • Lauren O’Neal has made a webcomic as a final project for a class. First of all, mad props to whichever professor at Stanford accepts webcomics as final projects. Second, O’Neal would like to apologize for the ugly URL; I wasn’t going to pay to host a final project, you know? No worries, Lauren, but if you create any more webcomics in the future, check out the hosting services.
  • Okay nerds, ‘fess up — you’ve been arguing over whether or not female dwarves have beard since you first read LOTR in Junior High School. Answer: yes. Now get to work on the whole Balrogs/wings thing.
  • You can never have too many dinosaurs; the tall one looks like a cross between late-Cretaceous hadrosaurs and dragon-man Trogdor. He also quotes The Princess Bride, so that’s all right.
  • And from Chris Jones, news that Neil Swaab’s Rehabilitating Mr Wiggles is moving to a new domain by name of mrwiggleslovesyou.com. I’m actually getting an error when using that address, but I’m sure it’ll just take a day or two to propagate the address. Then 400+ strips of psychotic teddy bear love will be all yours.
  • Okay, a little Goldman-related: Two Lumps adds their two cents today, and Penny Arcade may be stepping into the ring as well (but we’ll have to wait for Tycho’s post to load to get the full impact).

Not Goldman This Time

Helpful correspondent Zoe sent me links for a t-shirt company called Dirty Microbe which advertises on a lot of webcomics sites. She’s wondering if their Cutty the Razor owes anything to Randy Milholland’s Rippy the Razor, or if their pixel pirate shirt resembles that of R Stevens. My opinion? Cutty and the pirate shirt would be tough to prove, but the fact that the Jolly Roger there is composed of pixels when the rest of their line isn’t is somewhat telling.

Since the ire of the webcomics community is now well and up, I’m wondering if we need a clearinghouse for suspected webcomics theft sightings. On the one hand, the word could get around that webcomics creators and their fans won’t stand for theft of their property. On the other hand, it could devolve into mindless bitching over what constitutes parody, fair use, and reworking vs. outright theft. What do y’all think?

Anybody Know Their Way Around Section 501(c)(3)?

Per William G‘s suggestion here (and related suggested in the SA forum thread), there appears to be a desire for setting up a legal attack fund for Dave Kelly to take out Todd Goldman’s kneecaps in a proper fashion.

Anybody know anybody with the expertise to set such a thing up? On behalf of Fleen, I’m pledging $200 (US) to any such fund that Kelly acknowledges.

Todd Goldman Stealing From Liz Greenfield Too?

You be the judge: Goldman. Greenfield. And Todd? Talking trash about Kelly is one thing, screwin’ with America (by way of Holland)’s Webcomics Sweetheart will get you set on fire in certain corners of the interwebs. Angry mobs, please form an orderly line to the right.

And the great thing is, even if Todd-o can be shown to have not ripped off Greenfield (say, this image shows a clear history of having been produced back before Stuff Sucks started), it doesn’t matter. The default assumption on everybody’s part now is that whatever Goldman “produces” is stolen from somebody with talent and vision. He’ll pretty much never be able to claim original authorship on anything again. That sound you hear is a petard gettin’ hoisted.

Posted Verbatim

The following email was received by my Fleen account twice last night at 9:46pm (GMT-5:00). It is reproduced exactly as received (excepting only that I have edited to make the “<” and “>” symbols visible).

from: Todd <todd @davidandgoliathtees.com>
to: gary@fleen.com
date: Apr 9, 2007 9:46 PM
subject: <no subject>

Thanks for the inquiryÅ 

Here’s my inspiration! Every month I paint the works of a pedophile. This week, I chose the work of Dave Kelly, he’s a huge infantilist furry. This is someone who draws baby anthropomorphic animals either wetting themselves or jacking off. I’m not kidding. Once again, his name is Dave Kelly and this is his FTP full of his lovely art, there are even some photos of the artist himself, handsome fellow isn¹t he?

http://seth.beepboopinternet.com/davekelly/

Next month, please look for my special pedophile/serial killer series when I recreate the works of Jeffrey Dahmer.

Once again thanks for your support and please help me with my cause by spreading the word and showing the world just how creative pedophiles can be.

Do it for the kids.

Todd

Original text with full headers below the cut. I am not qualified to say if the email is legit, but if you are (and can back up your conclusion), please comment. If it is legit, Todd Goldman is even a bigger jerk than we thought. If it’s fake, his fans are even bigger jerks than we thought. Also, one can’t help but thinking that making statements of fact linking identifiable people with pedophile is, oh what’s the word? Actionable. Either way, not real good for Goldie.

Edit: As some have noticed, the link in the email above features images that are arguably pornographic. There is the possibility that the sender sent this email (which was apparently mass-mailed) to minors without any warnings as to the content. This makes for an interesting situation which may involve the sender in violations of Federal law. Now I really want it to be from Goldman.
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